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| Comments referencing the January 2001 CBO 10-year
projection of $5.6 trillion budget surplus, based on assumptions in the 190
page report |
| "And no one should be surprised, human nature
being what it is, people will go as far as they possibly can get away
with." |
| Quote by: Senator
Hillary Clinton - May 29, 2007 |
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| 3/2/2001 |
Mr. Barry Anderson, Deputy Director, Congressional Budget Office Not a Democrat |
PBS Special |
“I know Congress needs estimates
that go out ten years and we supply them.
But we make no bones about it that there is an awful lot of
uncertainty about what our projections are ten years hence.” |
PBS Special |
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The dartboard used by Mr.
Anderson in the video to show his confidence in the 10-year projection is
most effective. |
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| 1/31/2001 |
Rep. John Spratt Jr., Ranking
Member - See Post-Deception comment with same color |
House Budget Committee |
"Finally, these projections
are highly uncertain—particularly for the years farthest in the future. We
have been lucky in recent years to see budget estimates unexpectedly turn in
our favor. They could just as easily turn against us." |
House Budget
Committee - Democratic Caucus Report |
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Rep. Spratt's truthful statement
about projections. Therefore, implied
intentional deceit exits for 2009 statements. |
| 3/1/2001 |
Rep. John Spratt Jr., Ranking
Member - See Post-Deception comment with same color |
House Budget Committee |
"First of all, these
surpluses are projections, and we shouldn’t be swept away by them.
Seventy-two percent of the on-budget surplus that is projected for the next
10 years occurs in the second 5 years of that 10-year period. They may or may
not pan out. Let us hope they do." |
HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC, MARCH 1, 2001 See Page 10 of PDF file |
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Rep. Spratt's truthful statement
about projections. Therefore, implied
intentional deceit exits for 2009 statements. |
| 3/8/2001 |
Rep. Matsui |
Congressional Record |
"In the document that said
that we will have $5.6 trillion, the Congressional Budget Office also said
that there is only a 50 percent probability that the 5-year projections will
be correct, and they say in the 10-year projections they cannot even assess
whether or not they will occur because they have no experience at it." |
Congressional
Record 3/8/2001 |
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Acknowledgement the CBO has no
experience at 10-year projections. |
| 3/8/2001 |
Rep. Pelosi |
Congressional Record |
"We do not have the surplus
Members are talking about here. First of all, we are talking about a tax cut
based on a budget we have not seen, on a surplus we cannot guarantee, at a
time when we have unmet needs in our country." |
Congressional Record 3/8/2001 |
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Compare this Rep. Pelosi
statement to Speaker Pelosi on
September 29, 2008. |
| 3/8/2001 |
Rep. Udall (D-CO) |
Congressional Record |
"...risky to rely too much
on long-range forecasts of future budget surpluses…" |
Congressional
Record 3/8/2001 |
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| 3/20/2001 |
Sen. Dorgan See Post-Deception
Comment with same color |
Congressional Record |
"The President's plan
assumes we will have budget surpluses for the next 10 years. I hope that is
the case, but with the current slowdown in our economy, we ought to be
cautious. Economic forecasts are no more reliable than
weather forecasts." - Emphasis added. |
Congressional
Record 3/20/01 |
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Sen. Dorgan's truthful statement
about projections. Therefore, implied
intentional deceit exits for 2003 statements. |
| 6/27/2001 |
Sen. Conrad |
Opening Statement of Chairman
Kent Conrad |
"I
think one of the most important things that can come out of this hearing is a
renewed respect for the uncertainty - and I want to put the frame on that -
the uncertainty of long-term economic and budget forecasts. This after all is a 10-year forecast. The famous CBO fan chart
that showed estimates of uncertainty based on CBOs past forecasting records,
should have warned us that there was nothing
certain about a projection of $5.6 trillion of surpluses over the next 10
years." - Emphasis
added |
Opening Statement of Chairman Kent Conrad Hearing on Reassessing the
Economic Outlook |
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Sen. Conrad's truthful statement
about projections. Therefore, implied
intentional deceit exits for 2007 statements. |
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| 2/7/2003 |
Sen. Dorgan |
Democratic Policy
Committee Sen. Dorgan - Chairman |
"Huge deficits for years to
come: Two years ago, the President inherited a healthy budget surplus, a
budget circumstance that predicted a $5.6 Trillion in surpluses over the next 10 years." - emphasis added |
OPENING STATEMENT OF DPC CHAIRMAN SENATOR BYRON DORGAN DEMOCRATIC POLICY
COMMITTEE HEARING |
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Deception begins 23 months
after Sen. Dorgan says that projections are "not at all certain." Is this putting Party
ahead of Country? |
| 2/22/2003 |
Sen. Byrd |
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"...this administration
has squandered a $5.6 trillion surplus over the next decade and taken us to
deficits as far as the eye can see." |
Senator Robert Byrd
on Feb 22, 2003 |
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| 5/22/2003 |
Sen. Dorgan |
Democratic Policy Committee
Press Release |
"Worst fiscal reversal in
history. … The $5.6 trillion 10-year surplus that
President Bush inherited is now a deficit of more than $2 trillion, for a
total fiscal reversal of well over $7 trillion." |
22-May-03 |
Senator Dorgan
(D-ND) - Ethics - $5.6 Trillion Projection |
Continuation of Feb. 7, 2003
press release and a reversal from 3/20/01 |
| 10/5/2004 |
Sen. Edwards |
Vice-Presidential Debate |
"Because we will do what
they've not done. You know, if you look at what's happened over the last four
years, we have gone from a $5 trillion projected surplus when George Bush
took office to a $3 trillion projected deficit." |
5-Oct-04 |
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| 10/14/2004 |
Sen. Kerry |
Presidential Debate |
Kerry claimed Bush “has taken a
$5.6 trillion surplus and turned it into deficits as far as the eye can see.” |
14-Oct-04 |
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"But the country never
actually had a $5.6 trillion surplus. The projected surplus Kerry was
referring to was a 10-year figure that was already made dubious by a
weakening economy and a pent-up Congressional urge to spend. The largest
annual surplus actually realized was $236 billion in fiscal year 2000, which
ended a month before Bush was elected." - Factcheck.org |
| 3/15/2006 |
Sen. Baucus |
Congressional Record |
"When this administration
took office we were running large budget surpluses. Do you remember those
days, not too many years ago? A $5.6 trillion surplus over the next 10 years
was the projection back before the year 2000." |
15-Mar-06 |
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Chairman of the Senate Finance
Committee, Senator Baucus |
| 3/16/2006 |
Sen. Feinstein |
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"Under President Clinton,
we had four years of budget surplus. And, when he left office, we had a
projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion." |
Senator Feinstein
on March 16, 2006 |
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| 5/17/2006 |
Rep. Waxman |
Congressional Record |
"The year before President
Bush took office, we enjoyed a record-breaking $236 billion surplus and
projected surpluses that were expected to reach $5.6 trillion by 2011. In an unprecedented reversal, the policies
of President Bush and congressional Republicans have brought us the five
largest deficits in our history." - emphasis
added |
Congressional Record 5/16/06 |
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Henry A. Waxman. Chairman,
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
No where will you find where the CBO states the
$5.6 trillion surplus was "expected." |
| 6/14/2006 |
Sen. H. Reid (D-NV) |
Statement |
FACT: President Bush
Turned Record Budget Surpluses into Record Deficits. President Bush
inherited a unified budget surplus of $236 billion from President Clinton,
the largest surplus in American history. Budget surpluses were expected
to continue for another ten years when President Bush took office in January
2001. |
Statement |
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"...were
expected..."FACT, NOT!!! |
| 6/22/2006 |
Rep. DeGette |
Press Release |
"...Congress and President
Clinton to turn a $290 billion deficit into a $5.6 trillion surplus in just 6
years. Sadly it took President Bush and his Republican Congress just
five years to turn that surplus into a $3.2 trillion deficit." |
6/22/06 Press
Release |
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Not even a reference to a
projection. Blatant deception with a
projection. |
| 1/5/2007 |
Rep. J. Salazar |
Congressional Record |
Madam Speaker, the
administration has turned a projected 10-year, $5.6 billion (trillion)
surplus into a nearly $3 trillion deficit. |
Congressional Record 1/5/07 |
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| 3/21/2007 |
Rep. Perlmutter |
House Floor |
After all, it took the prior
Congresses and administration 6 years to turn a $5.6 trillion surplus into a
$2.8 trillion deficit. That's a fiscal collapse over a 6-year period of more
than $8 trillion. |
Congressional
Record 3/21/07 |
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Not even a reference to a
projection. Blatant deception with a
projection. |
| 7/11/2007 |
Sen. Conrad |
Senate Budget Committee Sen.
Conrad - Chairman |
“Nothing in the administration’s
deficit announcement changes the failed fiscal record of President Bush. He
has increased spending by nearly 50 percent since taking office, while at the
same time repeatedly cutting taxes primarily on the wealthiest. The result has been that the $5.6 trillion projected surplus
he inherited has been wiped out." - Emphasis added |
STATEMENT BY SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN |
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Note how effective deception
with a projection can be when attached to facts. Based on Sen. Conrad's
2001 statements, is Sen. Conrad putting Party ahead of Country? |
| 1/23/2008 |
Congressional Progressive Caucus |
73 Congress People |
"…they have squandered a
record $5.6 trillion surplus…" |
CPC Report 1/23/2008 |
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Might as well discredit them 73
at a time. |
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House Budget Committee -
Majority, Rep. John Spratt, Chairman |
REPORT: Final Bush Budget
Continues Same Failed Fiscal Policies * |
"In all, the $5.6 trillion
projected ten-year surplus that the Administration inherited when it took
office has been converted, under realistic estimates, into a $3.2 trillion
deficit. This represents a swing of $8.8 trillion in the wrong direction –
the largest fiscal deterioration in American history." |
2/4/08 Report |
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| 4/16/2008 |
Sen. Hillary Clinton |
Presidential Debate |
CLINTON: "You know, I'm
going to have to look and see what the revenue situation is. We now have the
largest budget deficit we've ever had, $311 billion. We
went from a $5.6 trillion projected surplus to what we have today, which is a
$9 trillion debt." - Emphasis added |
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16,
2008 |
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Note how effective deception
with a projection can be when attached to facts. |
| 6/9/2008 |
Senator Obama |
Campaign |
"George Bush's policies
have taken us from a projected $5.6 trillion dollar surplus at the end of the
Clinton Administration to massive deficits and nearly four trillion dollars
in new debt today." |
Senator Obama on June 9, 2008 |
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| 9/29/2008 |
Speaker Pelosi |
House Floor |
"… on a trajectory of $5.6
trillion dollars in surplus." |
Congressional
Record 9/29/2009 |
Watch House Floor |
Based on the timing, possibly
the worst case of projection deception that exists. Compare this Speaker Pelosi statement to
Rep. Pelosi on March 8, 2001 |
| 10/15/2008 |
Senator Biden |
Website |
"Since 2000, a projected
ten year surplus of $5.6 trillion has been squandered, turned into new debt
of over $3 trillion." |
Senator Biden on
October 15, 2008 |
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| 2/9/2009 |
Chairman Spratt |
House Floor |
“This is a simple bar
graph. It shows that the Bush
administration, when he came to office, had a phenomenal inheritance. A budgeting surplus over the next 10 years
by $5.6 trillion. That was January, 2001.” |
House Floor |
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No reference to a projection. |
| 2/9/2009 |
Majority Leader Hoyer |
House Floor |
"Tragically, that was
dissipated. That $10 trillion of debt now has replaced that $5.6 trillion of
anticipated surplus." |
House Floor |
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| 2/25/2009 |
Mr. Andy Stone, Western Regional
Press Secretary for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee |
Press Release: Earth to Representative Mike Coffman:
Republicans Responsible for Sky-High Deficits |
"Congressman Coffman needs
a history lesson. It was former
President Bush and Congressional Republicans that left Americans with
deficits as far as the eye could see, taking a $5.6 trillion surplus and
transformed it into a $3.2 trillion deficit." |
Press Release |
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The deception tactic with a
projection is used throughout the Democratic Party. |
| 2/26/2009 |
Speaker Pelosi |
Press Conference on February 26,
2009 CSPAN |
Bush inherited $5.6 trillion
projected surplus |
February 26, 2009
the deception continues |
Watch Spr. Pelosi
in 2008 contradict herself from 2001. |
Deception Continues |
| 2/26/2009 |
President Obama |
2010 Budget |
“that (surplus) was projected to
grow still larger over time.” |
Word Search Obama's Budget - page 14 |
14th page |
Blatant Deception Continues |
| 2/27/2009 |
Rep. John Spratt Jr., Chairman |
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"When President Bush took
office in 2001, he inherited a ten-year budget surplus projected to be $5.6
trillion. That surplus represented an historic opportunity to address some of
the major issues facing our country, including preparing for the needs of the
retiring baby-boom generation." |
House Budget Committee - Democratic Caucus Report |
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Textbook deception by at least
one Democrat on the Budget Committee. |
| 3/3/2009 |
Sen. Whitehouse |
Sen. Finance Hearing |
Based on a projection Bush
deficits grew $7 trillion. Watch
Chairman Bernanke explain the flaw in the Senator's premise because of the
revenue assumption. |
Fast forward to 1
hour 35 minutes and listen to Bernanke 2 minutes later. |
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| 3/4/2009 |
Sec'y Geithner |
Sen. Budget Committee |
"Forecasts are never what
they are." |
Fast forward to 1
hour 52 minutes |
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There is no deception here |
| 04/01/09 |
Rep. Clyburn |
House Majority Whip |
Turning the Budget Around — In 2001, the previous Administration inherited record budget
surpluses – $5.6 trillion projected over ten years – but squandered it all
and more, leaving a record deficit of over $1 trillion for 2009 alone. |
Website and search
for "$5.6 trillion" |
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Clyburn's Quote of the day -
4/1/09: “You
can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the
time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”- Abraham Lincoln |
| 04/27/09 |
Rep. John Spratt Jr., Chairman |
Chairman Spratt's Opening
Statement at Conference Committee for FY2010 Budget Resolution |
"Over the last eight
years, we have witnessed an enormous reversal in our budget. We have seen a
ten-year surplus of $5.6 trillion dissipate, disappear, and devolve into
massive deficits. In the meanwhile, our economy has been overtaken by the
worst set-backs since the 1930s." |
FOR
IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 27, 2009 |
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The most blatant attempt at deception with a projection that is possible
to exist is on display with this comment from Chairman Spratt. See my comments. |
| 4/27/2009 |
Speaker Pelosi |
Speaker Pelosi's website |
"a record surplus of $5.6
trillion over 10 years under President Clinton … turned into record deficits
of $5.8 trillion under President Bush" |
Press
Release |
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At what point does intentional
deception with a projection become a violation of the code of Ethics for
Government Service? |
| 4/29/2009 |
Sen. Conrad |
Senate Budget Committee Sen.
Conrad - Chairman |
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a result, we saw a very dramatic deterioration in the budget picture under
the Bush administration. They went from inheriting surpluses to putting us
into record deficits." |
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April 29, 2009 Hearing |
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In the same hearing Chairman
Conrad displays his knowledge of the unreliability of projections and then
says the Bush administration inherited budget surpluses. |
| 4/29/2009 |
Sen. Conrad |
Senate Budget Committee Sen.
Conrad - Chairman |
"Some have asked why we
didn't do a 10-year budget. Very simply, because Congress almost always has
done 5-year budgets because we know that the projections for the second 5
years are highly unreliable--highly unreliable. Frankly, a forecast for 5 years
is a bit of a crap-shoot." |
April 29, 2009 Hearing |
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This one hearing
demonstrates Senator Conrad's
partisanship associated with budget projection deception. And to see he started the hearing with
this: "I try to suppress
partisanship in my discussions on the Senate floor…" |
| 04/29/09 |
Sen. Whitehouse |
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION ON THE
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2010--CONFERENCE REPORT -- (Senate - April 29, 2009) |
"From their speeches, you
would never know that during the Bush administration the difference between
the budget that President Bush inherited and the budget projections he was
given the day he took office and the actual budget outcomes that the Bush
administration produced, the difference was nearly $9 trillion--$9 trillion
of debt." |
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Compare Sen. Whitehouse's
statement President Bush produced $9 trillion of debt versus his March 3,
2009 statement that President Bush's deficits grew $7 trillion. This is an excellent example of deception with a projection because the
"projection" President Bush inherited said the budget could return
to deficits without changing President Clinton's policies. |
| 04/29/09 |
Rep. Clyburn |
House Majority Whip |
"Unlike the last
Administration, which inherited a $5.6 trillion surplus projected over ten
years, this Administration inherited an economy in steep decline,…" |
04/29/2009 Daily Whipline |
CBO 2001 |
"The
primary negative risk is that the current slowdown might turn into a
recession. Although forecasters widely anticipated that economic activity
would slow, the deceleration has been surprisingly rapid." - CBO January
2001 in the 10-year $5.6 trillion budget surplus projection, based on the
considerable uncertainties in the report. |
| 05/06/09 |
Majority Leader Hoyer |
Hoyer Delivers Keynote Address
on Entitlement and Health Care Reform |
"I think we all understand
how we got here. In 2001, when President Bush took office, America had a
projected ten-year surplus of $5.6 trillion." |
WASHINGTON, DC -
House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (MD) delivered the keynote address at a
Bipartisan Policy Center forum, |
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An analysis of the CBO's
cautionary statements in the $5.6 trillion surplus projection would expose
Majority Leader Hoyer's statement to be deceptive. In the projection, the CBO stated the USA
economy was so uncertain we could return to deficits without changing
President Clinton's policies. |
| 06/09/09 |
Speaker Pelosi |
Press Release |
"A projected surplus of
$5.6 trillion was allowed to collapse into more than $5.8 trillion
indeficits– a turnaround of more than $11 trillion in the wrong
direction." |
Press
Release 06/09/2009 |
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| 01/15/10 |
David Axelrod, Senior Advisor to
president Obama |
Opionion Article |
"The day the Bush
administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed
a $236 billion budget surplus -- with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6
trillion." |
Washington Post 01/15/2010 |
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The deception is alive and well
in President Obama's White House. |
| 03/21/10 |
Majority Leader Hoyer |
Health Care Debate - HR 3590 |
"contrary to what so many
of my Republican friends said that bill would do, and a record budget surplus
of $5.6 trillion, contrary to the assertion of Mr. Armey that it would create
deep debt." |
Thomas.Loc.Gov - March 21, 2010 Page H1855 Time 18:45 |
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The gift that keeps on
giving. If you read the Congressional
Record, Speaker Pelosi used the tactic of deception with a projection to have
the CBO value the Dem's assumptions on the health care bill, and then she said
the numbers were from the non-partisan CBO. |
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